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There is an art to vaccine counseling. I suspect it varies based on geography, community, and personality of the counselor and the parent.

I will say the singular insurmountable obstacle is the dissenting parent not present at the visit. “Well, I think it’s a good idea but my (spouse/partner etc)!is very opposed, so not today.”

I have almost never seen that person accept an invitation to come to a visit, speak on the phone, or otherwise participate in the child’s medical visits. If I cannot counsel, educate, I am stuck.

I suspect occasionally it’s a way to deflect as well.

I still offer education even when they decline. “Ok, well we will not be doing that today then, but is it ok if I just provide you with some background information that you can think about in the meantime?” Every once in a while they even change their mind on the spot… sometimes…

Separating and layering recommendations help- well, your 6 month old has a much greater need for the flu shot than your healthy teen, but let’s look at why you might consider for each of them… it’s different, we have to acknowledge that. It improves discussion and uptake. It’s time consuming. But it’s worth it.

But we are fielding more aggressive calls from anti vaccine families in the last few weeks. It’s going to be bad. Without a doubt.

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FWIW here's an editorial I submitted to a local paper:

How would you like it if half your children died of preventable diseases before reaching high school?

This was the norm up until a century or so ago when vaccines for common, highly contagious, deadly

childhood diseases began to be available. In those days, parents gave thanks for such a merciful

development and rushed to the doctors' offices to get their children these precious shots. These days,

not so much. How soon we forget!

Just a quick reminder of the real villains in this story: (1) Measles vaccine was licensed in 1963; prior

to that, we lost around 500 children a year to this nasty disease, and tens of thousands were

hospitalized. Two doses are 97% effective in preventing symptoms, but we need 95% coverage to

prevent an outbreak. Some communities have fallen well below this level. (2) Diphtheria infected

100,000 American kids annually as recently as a century ago. About 10% died of suffocation from this

nasty problem. Thanks to vaccines, there is now fewer than one case a year in the U.S. (3) Tetanus

germs are found in the soil and need only a skin cut to enter a person's blood. Without immediate

treatment, up to 20% of infected people die in agony. The tetanus vaccine came out about 80 years ago

and lowered the U.S. case rate from more than 500 annually to fewer than 50. (4) Mumps is especially

nasty because you can be without symptoms for a month while spreading your infection to lots of

family, friends, and neighbors. We got our first mumps vaccine in 1967 and the rate of infection

dropped 99%, though case rates have recently gone up ten-fold. Mumps is no joke because even when

it doesn't kill you, it can leave you with deafness, sterility, seizures, and strokes. (5) Rubella can

devastate a fetus if the mom gets it. Some 32,000 babies are born each year with Rubella and about a

third of them die before their first birthday. There's no good treatment for this problem, but the vaccine

licensed in 1969 cut the U.S. rate from 47,000 to six cases each year. Fortunately, there's now a single

shot that protects against measles, mumps, and rubella! (6) Polio killed or paralyzed 21,000 people in

the U.S. in 1952, but the vaccines eliminated it here, though it still spreads in poorer countries. If you

doubt any of these figures, please have a chat with a licensed medical professional.

We're more vulnerable now because vaccination rates have gone down for all the diseases on this list.

This problem apparently relates to fears of vaccination side-effects. It is possible that diseases could be

virtually eliminated through universal vaccination so that vaccine side-effects become a bigger problem

than the diseases... for a while. The problem with this reasoning is that these diseases spread very

rapidly among unvaccinated people. That leaves us at risk for massive outbreaks that could very

quickly dwarf any possible problems from the vaccines.

I suppose the risks and benefits are like those facing a person who chooses to drive while drunk.

Chances are you'll get away with it, but your risk of a serious accident goes way up. You may not care

if you live or die, but don't you owe something to all the other drivers who might suffer from your

careless behavior?

Please consider carefully the fact that some people, through no fault of their own, are more likely than

others to die or suffer crippling after-effects from the diseases listed above. These include the young,

the old, and anybody already weakened by a chronic illness. Grown-ups, especially those who follow

Christian teachings or those of most other religions, understand that they have a responsibility to

protect those who are less fortunate, even at some cost to ourselves.

Finally, we need to carefully consider the reasons why some celebrity-wannabes exaggerate the harms

of vaccination while minimizing its benefits. Some of these folks care only about their own fame and

fortune. Some are actually working for our national enemies and are getting paid to weaken us. Many

are so uneducated that the history of preventable childhood diseases is unknown to them. Please don't

you be one of these!

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