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I wish this article had acknowledged that, while there’s good news about DEATH (hooray), COVID causes disability and secondary medical complications (stroke, heart attacks, cognitive impairments, diminished immune function, and diabetes) at much higher rates than flu does. It’s great that the death rate is down, but there’s a real danger that people will see that and stop thinking about the other post Covid issues.

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Aug 15Edited

I agree with Nemo and Caryn, this is SoOoo much more than the flu and death rate is not the only way to measure COVID’s impacts. As a physician, I find frequently that these labs may be positive in patients post covid many months after the fact if not years-Fibrinogen activity, d dimer levels, IL6,TNF alpha, IL 17, IL2. We’ve had multiple patients where we suspect “fatigue” was long Covid tested and they had a negative baseline but then “really “ got Covid and are positive for one or all of these biomarkers. Plus with antibody testing we get a forensic history for the patient ( just to note if someone has not been exposed to covid for over 2 years esp if prior infection was mild there is a possibility that the nucleocapside Ab goes negative)Covid has a sustained effect on the immune system. I have seen this in both vaccinated and unvaccinated populations. If public health doesn’t start measuring all its ramifications we will miss its impacts entirely. I have also seen healthy children go into the hospital for “normal” strep infections and at the elementary school level we are suffering from chronic absences that are over prepandemic levels. Nobody bats an eye with school districts being over 20% chronically absent for the last 3 years nationally! Peds are seeing kids sick over and over again again at higher rates. https://www.caschooldashboard.org/

https://www.ppic.org/blog/chronic-absenteeism-in-k-12-schools-remains-troublingly-high/

Children and young persons are also having higher rates of cancer which I know can be multi factorial.

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/pediatrics/articles/10.3389/fped.2024.1357093/full

https://www.cancer.org/research/acs-research-news/facts-and-figures-2024.html

https://www.who.int/news/item/01-02-2024-global-cancer-burden-growing--amidst-mounting-need-for-services

https://gco.iarc.fr/today/en

But, this implies that the research that UCSF with Dr Peluso et al are correct that their long covid patients have T cell exhaustion ( cd4/cd8 cells) and we have many undiagnosed with it already at this stage including children. One of the jobs of T cells is to fight cancer.

https://youtu.be/rMt6ZV-hHSE?si=kkdZtrSfBVRAPonf

If we don’t follow correlation and timing to covid plus clotting disorders, autoimmune disease, infections, neurologic disease, cancers ( everything that covid affects through the immune system) we will miss its ramifications on society.

https://www.phcc.org.nz/briefing/long-covid-aotearoa-nz-risk-assessment-and-preventive-action-urgently-needed

Unfortunately, not to be a doomsdayer but we now have to consider COVID’s implications on the animal population and whether we are going to wipe out animal species with us through immune dysfunction in their populations. So how will we manage this on a global level at this point… I’m not sure. https://share.newsbreak.com/85s0msco?s=i0

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