If you’ve recovered from COVID19, you still need to get the vaccine. Back in May, I gave four reasons why but this is particularly important with Delta and future variants of concern. Here’s why. Naturally induced immunity Before Delta, we knew that about 90-99% of people that recovered from COVID19 had detectable antibodies for at least 4 weeks (
Why are we not seeing reinfection statistics? We have been seeing comparisons between the recovered vaccinated vs recovered unvaccinated. But have seen nothing of unvaccinated reinfection vs. vaccinated breakthrough cases with both case numbers or hospitalizations/deaths. We know that antibodies are not the only indicator of immunity, and yet, scientists are using antibody studies to dictate who is protected and who is not. The chart above from the UK shows that reinfection with delta vs. alpha was 1% of cases vs 0.2% of cases, that seems like it is less than breakthrough cases with the vaccine. Additionally, including a study looking at 5 patients in a skilled nursing facility is not a reliable study to support anything. The scientific community is not providing enough data about reinfection, and those who are supporting that vaccines are more comprehensive than natural immunity with subpar data ie. only looking at antibody response, using small studies (of 5 people) are perpetuating theories based on lacking info.
First, thank you thank you thank you for all you do. I read all your posts and point everyone I know to you. I jumped on to substack to specifically ask a question about reinfection only to find it was your post today. Sadly, my kids are both infected with covid despite masking everywhere we've gone all summer long (we live in Texas). I was hoping we could get a brief reprieve once we're out of quarantine and let them do things we haven't been doing for the last 1.5 years. I'm in literal tears that this isn't the case. But I'm also feeling so much better about switching them last minute to a school that follows CDC guidelines on masking (they showed their first symptoms of covid 1 day after I made the switch official).
I have been trying to convince my vaccine skeptic brother to get vaccinated and your newsletter is an invaluable resource, thank you! However, he noted after I sent him a link to this posting that if you look at page 19 of the Public Health of England technical bulletin that you linked to the number of deaths in vaccinated individuals was lower than that of unvaccinated individuals, despite there being more unvaccinated cases. Is there anything substantial to counter these numbers that I can direct him to?
“Natural” immunity protection and variants
Why are we not seeing reinfection statistics? We have been seeing comparisons between the recovered vaccinated vs recovered unvaccinated. But have seen nothing of unvaccinated reinfection vs. vaccinated breakthrough cases with both case numbers or hospitalizations/deaths. We know that antibodies are not the only indicator of immunity, and yet, scientists are using antibody studies to dictate who is protected and who is not. The chart above from the UK shows that reinfection with delta vs. alpha was 1% of cases vs 0.2% of cases, that seems like it is less than breakthrough cases with the vaccine. Additionally, including a study looking at 5 patients in a skilled nursing facility is not a reliable study to support anything. The scientific community is not providing enough data about reinfection, and those who are supporting that vaccines are more comprehensive than natural immunity with subpar data ie. only looking at antibody response, using small studies (of 5 people) are perpetuating theories based on lacking info.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4
First, thank you thank you thank you for all you do. I read all your posts and point everyone I know to you. I jumped on to substack to specifically ask a question about reinfection only to find it was your post today. Sadly, my kids are both infected with covid despite masking everywhere we've gone all summer long (we live in Texas). I was hoping we could get a brief reprieve once we're out of quarantine and let them do things we haven't been doing for the last 1.5 years. I'm in literal tears that this isn't the case. But I'm also feeling so much better about switching them last minute to a school that follows CDC guidelines on masking (they showed their first symptoms of covid 1 day after I made the switch official).
I have been trying to convince my vaccine skeptic brother to get vaccinated and your newsletter is an invaluable resource, thank you! However, he noted after I sent him a link to this posting that if you look at page 19 of the Public Health of England technical bulletin that you linked to the number of deaths in vaccinated individuals was lower than that of unvaccinated individuals, despite there being more unvaccinated cases. Is there anything substantial to counter these numbers that I can direct him to?